“MGTOW are losers!” I heard her shout at the top of her lungs.
I was on a date last night, and apparently, just the topic of MGTOW really triggered her.
Needless to say, I will not be seeing that girl again (and thank God for that).
After that conversation however, it came to my attention that I’ve never even written an article on MGTOW before… this is absolutely unacceptable.
So with that in mind, here’s a pickup artist’s thoughts on the “MGTOW movement.”
What is MGTOW?
MGTOW, or short for “Men Going Their Own Way,” is a movement that’s been growing in popularity lately.
It’s obviously hard to briefly describe a whole community’s belief system, but if I had to boil down MGTOW into a single philosophy, it would be something like this…
Put your own life, your own success, and your own well being, before women.
That means don’t chase women. It means don’t sacrifice your integrity for women.
It means don’t get married to a woman (without a prenup), and it means don’t become a beta orbiter for 15 years and waste your time on a woman.
If I had to describe MGTOW in a nutshell, that’s how I’d do it.
Are there guys who completely advocate NEVER talking to a woman, who identify as “MGTOW?” Of course there are.
But I think the vast majority of MGTOW men aren’t necessarily AGAINST women, they just don’t want to put women before THEMSELVES.
“MGTOW Are Losers”
It’s funny seeing this new philosophy of MGTOW spring to the surface of our culture, because I’ve been saying these things forever.
It seems like common sense doesn’t it? Put yourself before a woman. You have to help yourself before you can help others.
Don’t sacrifice who you are. Don’t sacrifice your integrity. Don’t endlessly chase a woman if she’s not interested in you.
It all seems like such common sense, doesn’t it? Yet somehow, I guess it’s not.
…and to be fair, I get that a lot of MGTOW guys are in fact very angry, bitter incels. I understand that completely.
Hell, a lot of them probably have fair points. Many of them are proponents of the black pill, and want to see society burn.
Personally, I’m not a fan of the black pill—I prefer to accept my life, take a positive outlook, and move on. Just do what you can to improve.
In many ways, I also think this is the approach that MGTOW takes. It’s as if they’re saying: “Well, Western dating is broken, so I’m just going to focus on myself right now.”
…and what the hell is wrong with that? Nothing. Nothing at all.
MGTOW is a Reaction to Modern Culture
MGTOW is in large part a reaction to the changing dynamics of dating in western culture.
I’ll admit, I don’t like talking about this topic too much.
…and it’s not because I don’t think the culture critiques have a point. I get that a lot of American culture is hyper-sensitive and doesn’t appreciate normal male sexuality.
The reason I don’t like talking about it too much, is because it’s always best to focus on the things you can DIRECTLY change.
Who cares that our entire culture is moving a certain way, if you’re not even making end’s meet? Focus on that first.
Focus on getting your first 10 lays, before you complain about SJW culture.
“B-but Jon, I can’t get my first 10 lays, BECAUSE of SJW culture!”
No, that’s bullshit. You can. I did, and you can too. It just takes a little bit more effort than it would have 15-20 years ago.
This is where MGTOW comes in, though. The funny thing is, you don’t HAVE to be obsessed with chasing women all the time. You can actually just focus on your own life and eventually many of them will come around to you.
This has been my experience, and it will be yours too, if you go down the road of MGTOW.
PUA vs. MGTOW: What’s The Difference?
Now, I know what you’re thinking…
“But Jon, aren’t you a pickup artist? Doesn’t that mean you literally chase women for a living? How is that compatible with MGTOW?”
Well, first of all, I wouldn’t classify myself as anything. I have a blog and talk about a wide range of topics, from fitness to finance to fucking.
That being said, even being a pickup artist doesn’t require that you chase women. In fact, it’s literally the exact OPPOSITE.
Men should learn how to turn a girl on, and improve their social skills, SPECIFICALLY so that they DON’T NEED to chase women!
The whole reason you develop your masculinity, become more grounded as a man, and improve your life, is so that you can have your choice of woman.
Most men settle… this is not what winners do.
True winners are relentless. They’re fucking cleaners.
The truth is that you can absolutely be both MGTOW and PUA. You just don’t chase women and make them your #1 priority in life.
Your first priority should always be to follow your purpose, your dream, or whatever goals you’ve set.
MGTOW vs. Incels: What’s The Difference?
I think that a lot of incels flock to MGTOW, because it basically fulfills their need to feel like a victim, and simultaneously urges them to just take no action.
This is obviously extremely unhealthy.
If you’re an incel, the BEST thing you can do for your life, is get your situation with women handled.
Believe it or not, “game” is a learnable skillset. It’s not that hard if you put some time and effort into it.
Learn to recognize her IOI’s. Work on your style and image. Lift some weights and eat some steaks. Develop your confidence. Go out and practice.
When you literally just stop bitching and complaining, and start taking some action, you’ll realize that most of your excuses were lies.
Most incels and MGTOW losers don’t want to hear this, because it exposes their own flaws to them. So, with that in mind, let’s talk about…
The Dark Underbelly of MGTOW
While I do think that MGTOW has a lot of interesting principles that can help me live better lives, a lot of their community is pretty toxic.
Take, for example, some of these “rules” from a popular MGTOW post:
- Don’t reproduce; use contraception, or even better have a vasectomy
- Don’t use Tinder, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or any other social network
- Ignore women unless they give you something upfront
- Be healthy or unhealthy, but don’t preach others on your choices
Those are just a few random examples of some “MGTOW rules” from a popular post. And do you know what? That’s stupid as fuck.
Don’t reproduce? Wow, what a great idea—let’s just let Western Civilization, culture, and our way of life die out. Phenomenal.
Don’t use ANY social network, and become a sigma male? Good luck keeping in touch with old friends, being invited to parties, and actually having a social life.
Ignore women unless they give you something upfront? You mean be so angry and bitter, that you won’t even put in 10% of effort to potentially date a gorgeous woman?
Be healthy or unhealthy? Of course, because we all know being a fat slob is great for your life.
This is why so many people say that MGTOW are losers…because many of them are. Whoever wrote this post, is without a doubt, a fucking loser.
Now I’m not saying to sacrifice who you are for a woman, but for Gods’ sake, don’t be a bitter little faggot. Just grow up and move on.
Ditching all social media because it can have negative side effects, is like choosing to live in a fucking cave for the rest of your life, because society isn’t perfect. It’s an extremely over simplified approach to a very complex problem.
How to Go MGTOW Without Becoming A Loser
Hopefully by now, I’ve presented a decently balanced perspective on MGTOW. Like I said, many of the “MGTOW men” are complete losers who just make excuses and are emotionally immature. Many of them are just too lazy and pathetic to put in a little bit of effort to improve their sex lives.
Then again though, as I said before, many of them bring up good points. There is no “black and white” perspective on MGTOW, or anything in life. Learn from everyone, and everything.
That being said, let’s talk about some “MGTOW” rules you can apply to your life, that aren’t toxic:
- Be willing to date women, but only on your terms, and if they treat you right
- Never sacrifice your priorities for sex (or the promise of sex)
- Always put your own goals and your own life first
- Improve your life by 1% each day, for as long as you can
That’s basically it. Just following those four rules will put you leaps and bounds above the average man. Unfortunately, most guys go one of two ways.
They either fawn over the first girl who gives them any sort of attention, and end up becoming completely whipped, or they go the OPPOSITE direction and ignore women altogether.
Neither of these is a healthy way to live your life.
Ultimately, you want to date the right women (or woman) for you, because without a significant other, it’s pretty difficult to be happy and fulfilled in life. So don’t buy into the angry, cynical incel MGTOW losers who tell you to forget women altogether.
That’s no way to live your life. Understand that game is a LEARNABLE SKILLSET, and with a little bit of practice, you’ll attain the life you want in no time.
So, if you’re looking for a quick, easy way to 10x your attractiveness to women, then look no further than my 7 Strategies Program.
It fixes the underlying problem with your game, by making you more MASCULINE, and thus far more naturally attractive to women.
Of course, if you guys have any questions, comments, or concerns, feel free to let me know—and as always, I’ll see you next time!
❓ What is MGTOW?
MGTOW stands for "Men Going Their Own Way," which is a reactionary movement to the perils of modern feminism, the divorce courts, and our skewed culture. MGTOW advocates claim that dating and relationships aren't worth it anymore, and choose to focus on themselves first.
❓ What Does MGTOW Mean?
"Men Going Their Own Way," or "MGTOW" for short, is a movement of men who have chosen to ignore women and marriage in our modern culture, and focus on improving their own lives. Proponents of MGTOW typically believe that marriage isn't worth it, due to divorce courts heavily skewing towards women.
❓ Should I Go MGTOW?
No. While it may be true that divorce courts are skewed against men, you can still have an enjoyable dating life and get laid a lot without having to get married. When you learn game and improve yourself as a man, you become a player who can have his cake and eat it, too.